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toward Will’s door swinging the other way. I don’t blame Gabi for her frustration. Does Will think he can just do the platonic thing w/her after all this time?
relieved to know what has been the problem between them. Right now I think she is confused and frustrated because Will is sending mixed signals.
I hope she still sees him for the sweet, sane, person that he is (even with Sami as a mother). There is an article in the TV Guide for next week about the storyline. Will’s going to turn into a very dark (rage, etc) character because he’s in denial. It’s a storyline that’s going well into January.
during primetime devoted entirely to Will and Gabby. I guess this is going to be a pretty big story. They both seem to be good enough actors to pull something like this off. I hope so.
once Will finally admits the truth, first to himself, and then to Gabi, and the rest of his family and friends, she will stand by him. I also read that they remain close friends. If this storyline is written well, and if the acting is spot-on, it should unravel all of the fear, love, hate, anxiety, guilt, angst, and certainly heartbreaking emotions that one must mask or suppress when they know they are someone else other than who they are pretending to be. Personally, I’m looking forward to this story, and also agree that the actors involved should do well with it.
to where it dominates over all the other story lines, after 20 plus years I will be giving up on DOOL.
I too am looking forward to seeing how they are going to handle this storyline. As long as they don’t imply in any way that seeing his mother with EJ "turned him gay" I will be alright with it. I think Will and Gabi are doing great with this storyline so far and Gabi seems very evolved for a teenager.
I attended high school in the 70s. Knew I was gay, but knew it would be hell if I admitted it. So I "went steady" with some guys just so folks wouldn’t think anything or say stuff, but never wanted to do anything other than kiss. (Didn’t really want to do that, but had to put on a half decent act.) Certainly not a time I’d want to relive.
So this storyline isn’t as far fetched as some would believe. Some people don’t want to face it especially during those difficult teen years. I think it’s completely understandable. Hope it changes though.
I dated a guy in high school, Bill, who would always ask the group of us "what would you do if your best friend told her they were gay?" I remember the guys would say that they wouldn’t want that fag around them and a lot of cruel things. I just said he’d still be my friend, I’d just know more about him. After we broke up we remained friends and he started dating my best friend. He fixed me up with his best friend, John, and we’d double date. I started dating Mike but Bill and I remained friends and whenever Mike and I would have a fight I’d call and cry on Bill’s shoulder. A few years after high school and crying on Bill’s shoulder and he said he knew just how felt as the same thing happened between him and John. I realized then that he was trying to tell us in high school that he was gay but the attitude of the other guys led him to keep quiet. He fixed me up with his best friend and our double dates were the only way they could go on dates.
Bill and I aren’t close anymore but 35 years and miles got in the way though we did find each other again a few years ago and have chatted a few times. I miss my old friend and would welcome him back into my life in a heartbeat because I love him just as he is.
I don’t know if having a brother who was gay made me more accepting of him as a teen or if I was just more tolerant than the rest of our friends but I do agree that the teen years are tough enough trying to fit in without your sexuality being thrown into the mix. I do hope attitudes change and I do see it happening but it takes some maturity to get there and I don’t know too many teens who are at that point. They’re trying not to be judged themselves and have a fear that to others they’d be guilty by association.
of men being gay than vice versa. Although it seems that men really "dig" lesbians. Go figure. I have found in the past that gay men can really become good friends with me and I enjoy their social company.
When I was in HS in the 50s (OMG, THAT long ago?), the guy next door was gay (but still in the closet). It was pretty well known and, like you DeeLan, he was always my shoulder to cry on when by BF and I would have problems, which seemed to be often. I knew he was gay but didn’t totally understand what it entailed at that time. Yes, I knew he preferred men but not the mental turmoil he was going through. Years after we had moved to another state, I heard he had committed suicide.
I think I mentioned before about a guy I went to school with was gay. I didn’t know him then but we got together through email when our 50th reunion (in 2007) was being arranged and I hung out with him at the reunion and we have remained exceptionally good friends (unfortunately, only through email and phone because he’s in IL and I’m in FL). Even though he knew he was gay from a very early age, he married, had two kids and tried to live the "straight" life. It wasn’t until he was in his 40s that he finally came out, divorced and is now in a committed relationship (for 18 years now) with a man. He and his ex have remained in a VERY close relationship. They consider each other BFFs.
The only problem I have with this storyline is that, if Will is gay, he should really know it by now and realize why he’s having the problems he is. I don’t see there should be any confusion about why he can’t get as close to Gabi as he’d like.
And, like others have mentioned, I certainly hope they don’t blame his seeing EJ and Sami on it. Homosexuals are BORN THIS WAY (apologies to Lady Gaga!), they are not turned into one because of anything that happens to them. I firmly believe this and it has scientifically been proven. That’s why I hope people will sooner than later become more tolerant of them and understand this.
I hope I haven’t offended anyone with these remarks but I won’t apologize for them. I feel that homosexuals are similarly in a situation that the blacks were before integration and accepting that they were no different than the rest of us and should be treated that way. I mean, really, why should anyone care who someone is sleeping with, as long as no harm is being done, i.e. a child or such?
contributer on this site. (Probably more than are willing to admit, unfortunately.) Tell me, powerpaw, at what age did you realize you were gay? And when did you openly admit it to family and friends. Do you feel that there was an "event" that caused you to be gay? And did ever feel you wanted/tried to "change"?
If these questions are too personal, I apologize, and please, just ignore me. But, I think the more anti-gay people know about gays, the more accepting they will become. I’m all for education. :o)
first ‘friend’ that is gay but he has been feeling confused for a long time. Let’s face it, with Sami as his mother, he may not have realized what a normal love relationship is and thought his confused feelings were more due to a lack of good role models? I know he has other family members that could be role models but you do tend to look to those closest (mother/father) first. Will may be trying to find out who he is and Gabbi was his first but he knows on some level that it isn’t right for him. After seeing how T reacted to Sonny, you could understand why he’d be nervous about letting people know. Yes, some kids do make you suspect that later in life they may realize they are gay or have gender confusion but you can’t be sure.
I do agree with you Bonbon that the more you know, the better. As someone in the first state to allow gay marriage, I can say that my life (as a straight person) has not changed. The majority of gays that I either know or have come into contact with are no different from other people (there are some good and some bad in all groups). Yes, even here there are people who try to push their agenda on others which is sad as you need to think how you would feel if someone was attacking you/your beliefs. The US was founded on religious freedom, freedom of speech, etc. I’d just like to treat others as I would like to be treated.
Thinking back to high school and even watching T’s reaction to Sonny on Days it’s like guys think it’s "catching" or the guy’s going to hit on him. I mean, do they think every heterosexual girl is going to hit on them.
I do think you can be gay and not know it or not want to know it so you’ll try to have what you consider "normal" relationships. My brother grew up in the 50’s and from what I heard he wasn’t openly gay. My mom wouldn’t talk about it but after he died we had a few discussions. She blamed a friend of his for introducing him to that lifestyle. I guess this woman was very liberal in her thinking and had several gay friends and took my brother to some gay bars. What I couldn’t get my mom to understand was it was in him in the beginning, this woman just realized it and helped him find friendships he could be himself in and not have to hide. I mean what kid would choose a lifestyle that had to be hidden or (at that time) you’d get beaten up for. Talking to older cousins who grew up with my brother I guess it was obvious to everyone but my parents and maybe even my brother that he was gay. He’d get chased home from school daily and was often the butt of jokes and ridicule. He dropped out of school and my parents blamed it on the education he got but I think it had more to do with peer pressure and not fitting in.
When I was younger my brother had a girlfriend and would have her to the house often but sadly she died in a car crash. It was after that I never saw him with another girl but he’d often bring "friends" to the house. It never dawned on me that these guys were more than just buddies. Sometimes they’d spend the night but mostly not. He was 19 years older than I was but lived at home. Often he’d go to work on Monday and not come home until Thursday night. It wasn’t unusual.
I found matches from a gay bar and that fueled my suspicions but didn’t really think much more about it. After he died at age 39 when I was 20 I was going through his things and found a bunch of letters written by some guy he met in France. My brother liked to travel and did so alone. He’d been all over Europe a few times, South America and had just come back from New Zealand 2 days before he died. These letters I found were love letters to him. At first I was shocked but then I realized this was my brother and a part of him I always suspected but was never talked about. I wasn’t disgusted but loved him more. This was the same brother I looked up to, the one who protected me from the boogie man and spoiled me rotten. I of course kept those letters hidden from my parents. They’d accepted his lifestyle the best they knew how and in my eyes much better than most parents in the 50’s, 60’s and even 70’s but they still had the "ignore it and it goes away" mentality.
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