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May 17, 2010 at 9:00 pm #680caseyParticipant
He was a riot during the poker game. Really enjoyed that moment – instead of all the intensity of late.
May 17, 2010 at 9:08 pm #12959PattiParticipantand seems to take direction very well; but, I also think he ad libs a lot and the adult actors just seem to roll with it, like on the day he threw the tantrum and Sami was so upset with him. The doorbell rang and he just looked up at Sami and told her to get the door. She held it together, but you could tell she was ready to crack up over his seemingly unrehearsed remark.
May 18, 2010 at 12:32 pm #12976bluebonnetParticipantAnd, he was being so real the other day when was eating candy. He walked out of the room, looked up at EJ, and said, "Do I have chocolate on my face?"
May 18, 2010 at 2:03 pm #12978GoodyParticipantMay 23, 2010 at 1:42 am #13086devorrahParticipantI guess I am old-fashioned, but I couldn’t believe that they all wanted to teach Johnny to play Poker. This is an adult betting game, not a little card game like Old Maid or Fish. What were they thinking? I was disgusted by it and thought what a way to show them having normal family time. Anyone else feel the same?
May 23, 2010 at 2:03 am #13087caseyParticipanthow could a kid that young possibly learn the game? Heck, I picked it up when I was in college and even then it wasn’t easy! I guess we have to remember this IS the Dimeras and they probably skip right over Old Maid to the hard stuff!
May 23, 2010 at 11:33 am #13088BonbonParticipantI don’t see anything wrong with a kid playing poker. Heck, when I was as young as 10, we used to sit on the porch steps and play roulette all summer long. And that’s a betting game. Of course we used chips and not money. I’m sure they were doing the same. Also my family was big on card playing. When I was a teenager, my mom (a widow) would often get the guys in the kitchen for a "friendly little poker game" and they all loved her for it. In fact, although it annoyed me at the time, it was one of the reasons everybody always gathered at my house…always! My engagement party even ended up in a poker game.
I don’t believe he knew entirely what he was doing because remembering the hands would be very difficult for a kid that age but I’m sure they were ‘helping’ him. The only evils of poker are what results from the money lost by people who can’t afford to lose it. In fact, I’d say it would be beneficial for a kid to learn to play, if only for the skills it involves. And it would be invaluable if he ever goes into the military service. JMO
May 23, 2010 at 12:55 pm #13089DeeLanParticipantI also grew up in a family big on card games and poker was high on the list and I learned how to play poker at an early age. My aunt’s mother-in-law was on social security and couldn’t afford to loose too much money so they called $5 Poverty. Each person pulled out $5 and that’s all they used throughout the entire game. They started out with a nickle ante and could raise a nickle at a time. When they were all in they could still play and call but couldn’t bet or raise. If they won the pot they could start raising again. If one person ended up with all the money the game ended and they’d have to pull out another $5 but that rarely happened and they could play all night and only loose up to $5.
I remember when I was about 10 I had a list of what beat what and I’d play with my parents and once in a while I could play in the $5 poverty games with the adults. They helped me a lot especially if I had trouble seeing that I was already beat on the table so I wouldn’t call, or bet needlessly.
May 23, 2010 at 9:38 pm #13095Carol JParticipantWe played all the time when I was a kid. We played for buttons, M&Ms or some other goodies. I still love playing with my grandkids even if it’s go fish or war.
May 24, 2010 at 12:18 am #13096GoodyParticipantmy kids played with playing cards. They made great ‘flash’ cards with the number and the spots. Soon they learned to ‘play’ card games, including poker, but there was never any money involved. Like most things, playing cards can be used innocently, or they can be used in a bad way. I think it all depends on how the cards are presented and what the children are taught about them. Neither of my children gamble, but they have let their kids have playing cards as a learning tool.
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May 24, 2010 at 9:12 am #13097SWParticipantthat you can’t always win, how to lose gracefully, how to win gracefully, turn taking, etc. Hopefully, they also make the connection that you don’t bet what you don’t want to potentially lose. Given that Johnny is living in DaMansion with the Dimeras, he needs to learn all sorts of things! lol Don’t I remember EJ being a poker player at one point?
May 24, 2010 at 12:16 pm #13098BonbonParticipant…about learning to win and lose gracefully. When I was a kid (in the 40s and before TV), my brother, my friends, and I played games all the time. It’s when I learned to be a good loser but to also be a good winner. And I can’t tell you how many times the phrase "Cheaters never win and winners never cheat" was invoked. I also think they were valuable in learning math and other skills. I know the computer games the kids play now also teach a lot but I wish kids would also go back to the board games, if nothing more than to have the social interaction with other kids.
Sorry to be waxing nostalgic but there are so many valuable things that have been lost as the years progress and I just feel that the kids are losing out because of it. Captain May I; Red Light, Green Light; Hide and Go Seek; Red Rover, Red Rover; Cops and Robbers; and even Cowboys and Indians. (Maybe not PC anymore but…it was certainly a lot of fun.) How many of us "older" folks can remember being in the middle of an exciting game when the street lights came on (the universal signal that the day was over and the bath tub awaited us) and we had to quit and go home? Do any kids these days ever experience that?
May 24, 2010 at 1:17 pm #13100caseyParticipantFor those of us back in the day, remember when you never hung around the house but were out all day finding a myraid of things to keep you busy? I would ride my bike all around town, go exploring in fields, go bowling, meet up with friends in the park, etc. Of course today the paranoia about pedophiles and criminals lurking on every corner has put a huge dent in the freedom of youth. I treasure that I was born in a time where computers and video games weren’t the order of the day and I found great satisfaction in nature and the small enjoyments of those innocent halcyon days.
Kids are so missing out today.May 24, 2010 at 1:27 pm #13102DeeLanParticipantAH YES, memories. Our street was 2 blocks long and we’d start at one person’s house standing outside yelling "YO MARY" and waiting for someone to come to the door. Then the 2 of us would go to the next house. Eventually all the kids were outside riding bikes or on the porch playing with dolls. On weekends all the parents would gather on one porch and we were allowed to play after dark but had to stay in view. During the day anyplace was fine. The parents never knew exactly where we were but knew we were someplace on the street or in someone’s house. We knew what time we had to be home and if inside we always told the mom we had to be home at a certain time and they reminded us.
I remember we use to put playing cards on the spokes of our bikes with a clothes pin to make it sound like a motor and would pretend we rode motorcycles or we’d pretend our bikes were horses. Do kids even have bikes anymore? We used our imaginations and anything was possible. I was born in 57 and when I was younger the Monkees were popular and a group of us had our own band with a set of bongos and pencils for drums, 2 Swinging Cat guitars (yellow plastic) and a tamborine made from a needlepoint ring and bottle caps. We were the Monkees and would sing along with the records. I was Mickey.
May 24, 2010 at 1:30 pm #13103PattiParticipantonce a week, and my grandkids look forward to it every Wednesday. The kids start discussing what they want to play right after school AND HOMEWORK is finished. Sometimes its tv/interactive, like "Scene It" or "Family Feud DVD", sometimes it’s a board game (they still love the old standards like Clue, Monopoly, and games I remember playing from childhood), and sometimes its cards. We play a game called "Love Thy Neighbor" with cards and dice, and anyone can roll you out for the win, so I guess I must really be a bad influence, because we play with cards AND dice. It can last for hours, because it’s very hard to make two or twelve on the dice, but the kids are occupied, love the game, and have a great time playing it. Of course, I make popcorn and serve other treats, so "game night" is a big hoopla at our house. Now, my little one (4-year old grandson, who I babysit and have every day), has become addicted to "War" (another card game that can go on and on and on), but you would be shocked at how much he has learned from playing it. He already knew how to count, knows all of his colors, shapes, etc., and as someone else said, has learned who wins by counting the spots on the cards. I tell him he’s going to be so smart when he starts Pre-K in September, and he gets so proud of himself. So, no, I don’t see anything wrong with cards, as long as no money or intent to gamble is involved. I did object to E.J. lighting up the cigar, though. That was waaaayyyy worse, IMHO.
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