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  • #1229
    SW
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     I just started watching (1/2 way through) and the Dr. is telling someone he’s on his way with the patient or something like that and then we see Ari being wheeled out with no sheet over her head like they normally do when the person has died.  Hmmm, my mind is saying he’s part of some sinister plot that involves the prison death.  Anyone else?

    #17421
    Nora
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     Yeah I was thinking the same thing,  goes along with Hope and the prison  girl April investigation.  There was something on Dayscafe about Organ stealing.  it probably all ties together. 

    #17425
    SW
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     why would they just wheel her out without oxygen or something to keep the heart still pumping IF they are going to use it in a transplant?  To me, it didn’t make sense since once a heart stops beating, I’d say it is done with.  Am I mixed up?  Also, from something someone said about transplanted organs, you can’t use them if the body has had some medications given to it.  Oh well, this is Days, just keep repeating, "this is Days."  lol

    #17432
    53tdogs
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    stop pumping and why would they just take a heart – the transplant team would be there a.s.a.p. and take everything viable.  Maybe some of you with nursing or medical background can clarify this.  And like you said SW, it is "Days" so I’ve got to quit trying to make sense of things.

    Also, I sure don’t see the good ol’ Salem PD looking for the hit and run driver very hard.  You’d think Bo would have at least mentioned it in his conversation with Victor and Hope. 

     

    #17443
    DeeLan
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    When we  had a patient that was an organ donor we had them on life support until the transport team got there.  I know the doctor would pronounce them but we had to keep their body "alive" until the team got there and that could be hours of waiting.  Once the transport team came they were the ones that took the body to OR and removed everything.  The team wasn’t called until AFTER the patient was pronounced or the family decided to pull have them pronounced and donate the organs. 

    With some organs can’t be used if the patient had been given certain medications both past and present and I’m wondering with Ari’s drug abuse history if any damage had been done. 

    It was strange when we had someone on a ventilator and we had to do our routine ventilator checks which were every 2 hours and document all the settings and vitals as if they were still alive when everything in their chart said they were dead. 

     

    #17448
    zsuzsa
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    supposed to have massive damage to her organs from the accident, at least her heart and lungs? And DeeLan, is it absurd, as it seemed to me, that her cardiac episode would have damaged her lungs enough to kill her? I’m not a medical professional, but that seemed silly.

    #17455
    DeeLan
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    Anything that affects the lungs will eventually damage or affect the heart and vice versa. How long it takes for that to happen just depends on what it is.  Also when there’s damage to the heart you risk damaging the kidneys as well then the other organs will follow suit.  BUT the best organ donors are young people who die in accidents since there usually wasn’t any disease and heavy duty medications over a long period of time involved.  I heard an argument for helmets on kids riding bicycles that kids and head injuries make the best organ donors.  

    #17471
    53tdogs
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    from the doctor, I should take off the pink dot on my DL card – or will they still use my stuff in a pinch? 

    #17474
    SW
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     was the the procedure.   I remember seeing where a heart could be kept ‘frozen’ to be transported to another city and then still be used but that was due to the frozen state.  

    #17476
    justwondering
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    It is possible that there was severe damage prior to the cardiac episode. They siad she had broken ribs and internal injuries that could have damaged the lungs.

    #17486
    DeeLan
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    I’m not sure how the meds would affect things like corneas and skin but they might be able to use that stuff.

    I remember my brother always said he wanted his body donated to science and when he died my mom said NO WAY.  

     

    #17493
    53tdogs
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    who signed the card (if they were over 18) or can the family say no?  I just signed the card and put the dot on my driver’s license.  I can totally understand your Mom’s feelings about her child.  It’s one thing to make the decision for one’s self but another set of feelings entirely when it comes to a loved one. 

    #17498
    DeeLan
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    Things might have changed since I stopped working at the hospital in 2000 but even at that time a family could change any decision a patient makes if the patient can’t speak for themselves.  The family could even override the living will and we’d had that happen on more than one occasion.   There were times we wanted to slap the family silly for the decisions they were making that we knew went against what the patient wanted or when we knew there was no hope and they were just delaying the inevitable but in the end it was their decision to make. 

    #17520
    Bonbon
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    she wasn’t on it when she died.  They only thing she was receiving was oxygen.  They can’t put them on life support once they’ve passed.  Besides, I believe a heart is viable for up to 24 hours.  I’ve heard of hearts being flown across the country and still being used.  I had a hard time believing that she had damaged lungs and she wasn’t on a ventilator.  DeLan?

    As for rolling her out without being covered by a sheet, I don’t think they do that anymore because then, to on-lookers, it is a dead body but if they don’t cover it up, they just think the person is sleeping or unconscious.

    But I wondered about the heart transplant.  They stated earlier that her heart was damaged in the accident.  I can’t believe that they’d take a chance with a damaged heart for a transplant.  If it was having trouble keeping Ari alive, what good would it do the receiver.  Have they even asked Rafe’s permission?

    #17524
    DeeLan
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    I agree if her lungs were damaged it appears that means they weren’t able to function properly and even though she might be breathing on her own she wouldn’t be able to ventilate effectively so they’d probably have her on more than oxygen BUT in my opinion TV shows and soaps in particular seem to get oxygen and life support confused. Lack of medical advisors there.  

    I remember when I first started working at the hospital they had a cart with a shelf underneath.  They’d put the body on the shelf and have a sheet over the top covering the shelf so when they wheeled it out past patients and families it looked like it was empty. 

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