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have a say so as to her Mother to running for office, but Bristol didn’t ask for any of it, other than to be a contestant on this dancing show. Now in the media today – it is character assassination.
If people are voting for her, well, that is how the show is set up. It was never based on the best of the best. American Idol is the same way.
DWTS is garnering HUGE ratings for their advertisers – and that is the name of the game folks. The advertising money. Plain and simple. The public has 50% and the judges have a 50% say so in winners. The leftiest are now blaming the T.E.A. party for a television show???? Does the madness ever end?
Come on – they (the left) set it up this way – ever heard of affirmative action? It’s not who is the best qualified, who got the best grades, or really worked to get into a great college or get a great job – it’s who "didn’t get a fair shake" that gets into college, gets the good jobs, promotions, etc. Right or wrong it was the left who set this system up. Now that their game is being played by their rules – and they don’t like it!
It is the SAME as the 2008 election – winners and loosers by voting by popularity. It’s the American way. It has nothing to do with who’s the best, who is the smartest, who is the candidate who can run the country according to the Constitution of the United States (or dance). It’s a popularity contest. It’s a dance contest. Why do you think that kids aren’t allowed to play dodgeball on the playground any more? Why are kids not being allowed fail in school when they can’t add 2 + 2 or spell by the time they graduate H.S.?
We used to be a country of winners and the greatest country on earth in the history of mankind. Because we were winners, smart, bright and the best of the best. Now there are popularity contests. Winners and loosers in life based on popularity.
And what I can’t figure out is how people are blaming Bristol for taking out Brandy but nothing is said about Kyle. Certainly Brandy is a much better dancer than Kyle but yet Bristol is the one who is being blamed. Oh, could it be because Kyle’s mother is not a controversial political figure? I’ll tell you what…if Sarah Palin is responsible for Bristol getting all these votes, she should definitely be elected president. Just think of all the other things she could accomplish with that incredible power she has.
You’re right about the game being played the way it was formulated, yet people are claiming the Tea Party is "stuffing the ballot box"? How do they know that? Pure speculation and hyperbole…sour grapes. This isn’t the first time (nor the second, third, or fourth) a less talented dancer has continued on because their fan base was larger. Let’s talk about Chloris Leachman, Jerry Springer, Buzz Aldrin, and a whole lot more. And as I have said all along, how do we know it isn’t the residents of Alaska that are keeping her going. Entirely possible.
So, all you cry babies out there, it’s time to leave the politics out of it, shut up, and enjoy the show for what it was intended to be, entertainment. And if you can’t watch it as it is, turn it off and kwitcherbelliakin!!!
The judges scores count for half and the votes from the public count for the other half. I know it will never happen because it’d take the suspense out of the elimination each week but it would shut a lot of people up to know just how many votes each couple get. Well, maybe.
But I think it is sad that you will not watch the finale because some particular group of people had enough votes to pull someone through. Look how many football players with two left feet have been on and stayed way past their capabilities dictated, just because of their popularity with football fans. The show has never been about most improved, or best dancer. It has always been a popularity contest. That’s just the way it is.
a couple of websites that are out there overloading the voting process in favor of Bristol. There’s no confirmation of it being any particular group, but they have been bragging about being able to vote over 300 times in a short period of time. I’m not a techie, so I didn’t quite understand the process they used; but, we all know that any of those reality shows that ask the public to vote can be manipulated if you’re smart enough to how.
I’m not happy that it’s that way; but, it is what it is. If I’m disgusted enough with the outcome, I’ll just decide not to watch anymore and avoid getting my panties in a bunch over something so trivial as a TV show!
Bristol should not be there in the finals but it’s not her fault. People voted for her. If she was a Democrat, there wouldn’t be half the outcry (I’m saying this because people keep mentioning the tea party conspiracy). And it’s because people don’t like her mother, so they are blaming her. There were lots of people who shouldn’t have gone to the finals and I saw no complaining then. Why the HUGE fuss now? I didn’t see anyone complaining when Marie Osmond made it to the finals and she was not a good dancer at all. Then I read that a guy just shot his TV after he saw Bristol dance. Granted the guy has psychological issues but enough already. If people are going to get that enraged over a tv show, then maybe they should channel that anger into what really matters such as the mess our country is in. Now that is something to worry/get worked up about.
So many comments I just can’t decide who to respond to. The thing of it is, we all know it’s a rating game, but this particular one has really gone on longer than most. I didn’t watch DWTS this time around because, frankly, I didn’t know any of the people well enough to want to root for any of them. I was glued to my set when Apolo Anton Ohno danced and that hunky gorgeous guy who’s on Brother and Sisters. That being said, I have read the hype and the fallout of Bristol Palin ending up in the finals. My husband and I had a discussion about this and my comment to him was why Bristol was even picked to dance in the first place (had her Mom not been in the public light because of politics, she would be some girl from Alaska that no one had ever heard of (except if you lived in Alaska). So politics got her on the show. Having watched several other seasons, yes, some of the bad dancers did go further than expected (Kate Gosselin stands out). I remember how Kate G. always danced at the end of the show so people would keep watching. But viewers do finally see the light and usually they quit voting for them (i.e., Cloris Leachman) and the best man/woman usually wins out. So, I’m not watching the finale as I’m not invested in this season at all, but I’m sure the internet will be abuzz if Bristol does win.
"The leftiest are now blaming the T.E.A. party"?
"They (the left) set it up this way"?
What does "leftiest" mean —- furthest to the left?
"affirmative action"?
"the left set this system up. Now the game is being played by their rules and they don’t like it"?
Your entire 5th paragraph, beginning with "It is the SAME as the 2008 election"?
My final question: Do you have "I’m a Republican and Damn Proud of It" tattooed across your forehead (I was gonna’ suggest an area further south, but I didn’t want to be rude)? If not, you should have. Cause, for the life of me, I can’t see what any of the above has to do with the topic of this thread.
By Mark CubanSpecial to TODAYshow.com Special to TODAYshow.comFirst, let me say the scoring process for "Dancing with the Stars" is fair. It is honest. It’s just not obvious.
It also is weighted 50 percent to judges’ scores and 50pct to popular vote. Which means the votes of viewers have more impact than the judges scores…. Which is why Bristol Palin has done so well. Let me explain.
When I was on the show, my first week I found myself in the bottom two. I was pissed. I had scored triple 7s. Which had me tied with half the other contestants and ahead of several. Yet there I was sweating bullets. I survived to dance another week. Afterwards one of the producers explained to me how the voting works, which in turn completely changed my strategy and approach to the show. Like anything else, it helps to know the rules.
From the "DWTS" site:
“Each week every couple receives points from the judges and votes from the public. For every couple we work out the share they got of the points given by the judges on the night, and the share they got of the public’s votes on the night and we add these two shares together. The couple with the lowest combined total is eliminated from the show.
For example if couple A, B and C receive 38, 26 and 14 points from the judges, we calculate what share these points represent of the total awarded by the judges on the night. In this case the judges gave 78 points in total, and each couples’ share of 78 points breaks down as follows: 38= 48.72 percent of 78, 26= 33.33 percent of 78, 14= 17.95 percent of 78. Let’s suppose that when the public votes are tallied, each couple has the following shares: A= 20 percent, B=40 percent, C=40 percent. To determine who’s eliminated we combine these two shares for the total:
Couple A: 20+48.72 percent = 68.72 percent
Couple B: 40+33.33 percent = 73.33 percent
Couple C: 40+17.95 percent = 57.95 percent
In this case, the bottom two couples would be A and C, and C would be eliminated.”
If you follow the math of the process, and you understand the show we can see that the two key variables have very different limits. In any given dance, the most the judges can score a dance is a 10. Across the three judges (and yes I realize there are some weeks they try different things, but the math still works) a couple on the show can’t score more than 30 total points.
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This is particularly important in the early weeks of the show. Early on the total scores of all the contestants is relatively high, so the percentage of total scores for even the couples getting the highest possible scores with the judges is relatively small.
For example, if nine couples score 30 and one couple gets 0 points — that’s right a total goose egg — the couples with 30s would each have 1/9 (30/270) or 11.1 percent of the total score. You would then add to that total the percentage of viewer votes that each couple got. So if the couple that got a zero from all three judges got 25 percent of the vote and none of the other couples got more than 14 percent of the vote, then the couple who got nothing but zeros from the judges would actually have won that week!
As the number of participants decline over the course of the show, the importance of the judges’ votes increase, but the popular vote is still more important. Again, because there is a limit on the scores from judges, but no limit on the number of viewer votes a couple can get.
This was particularly evident for this past week nine with the elimination of Brandy and Maks. The scores for all four couples were relatively close. There were a total of 228 points awarded. Jennifer and Derek got a perfect 60 for 26.3 percent of the vote. Kyle had a 58 and 25.4 percent, Brandy had 57 and 25 percent while Bristol was at the bottom with a 53 and 23.2 percent of the vote. On a night where ABC said they got more total votes than any non finals week, in order to get to the finals, all Bristol and Mark had to do was get about 2 percent more votes from the fans to get to the finals, which she obviously did.
We also don’t know the order the couples finished in. Only that Brandy and Maks were eliminated. It may well be that Bristol is so popular that came in first place with plenty of room to spare. Or maybe she barely scraped ahead of Brandy and Maks. Thats the beauty of "DWTS" voting. The viewers don’t know the actual order or how many votes anyone got. Which in turn motivates more to vote.
So here we are at the finals. I don’t know if they are going to score the three finalists against each other, or if they will recalculate the scores so it’s just the final two against each other. We have to see what the show does. But again, it doesn’t change the math.
Whoever has the lower judges’ total scores for the final dances can make it up by gaining more votes from the viewers. The most the judges can give is a 30. There is no limit to the total number of votes that can be cast for either couple. Given that historically the judges’ scores for the finals have been relatively close, it will all come down to viewer votes. Again.
Some folks think that gives Bristol the edge. Or maybe it will incent the fans of Jennifer and Derek or Kyle and Lacey to vote in greater numbers. All I know is that I will be watching!
And no, I wont be voting. I only vote for my former partner Kym
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