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January 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm #4908justwonderingParticipant
So, EJ has changed? He loves Sami more than anything and will do all in his power to be with her—- like —
blackmailing her into marrying him because he has the evidence that can put her away?
OH yes, they are definitely a super couple who stays together through thick and thin!! Who no matter what has each other’s back! NOT
He even uses his "fatha" tactics to get the girl of his dreams. So creative, so different. They are definietly one for the ages.
I cannot believe what TPTB have done to them. Not really, cause I never believed that EJ has changed.
January 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm #42191PattiParticipantand mark my words, he will prove it; but, in the meantime, he’s going to use the hell out of that stupid, boring, lamebrain, Abigail, to keep her trap shut, and she’s going to go completely ga-ga over him, believing he actually cares for that little girl. Bah, he is stupid beyond belief if he thinks this isn’t going to back-fire on him, but not half as stupid as she is for believing he cares one iota about her silly school-girl crush that she’s likely to develop.
January 3, 2014 at 9:24 pm #42193dvalParticipantin so far as he is capable of loving someone. He doesn’t have a clue what it means to be totally honest with someone. Just the fact that he won’t admit that he knows EXACTLY what Kristen did, even though he knows Sami knows the truth, proves that he still thinks his family is more important than his love for Samantha. And she can feel it. Now she just has to accept that she is never going to be truly #1 in his life and get on with things. But I agree with justwondering…this is NOT a timeless couple, in my book, because they don’t give themselves entirely to each other the way the true super couples have done in the past. Not to say that Sami is any great shakes in the relationship department but I think she has a better understanding of how things should go (whether she practices what she is preaching or not). IMHO.
January 4, 2014 at 1:03 am #42194TFlo1018ParticipantHe DOES love Sami – not just in a way EJ can love someone but he truly does love her. It will all come out and they will ULTIMATELY be together – but we need a story to get us to sweeps
See at the end of the day family trumps Sami (in his mind) and I’m sure there a lot of people who can relate to that. Think about it – you fall in love and your parents hate your choice and therefore you break up. THAT HAPPENS A LOT!!! Now take that, magnify by 100 (for soap purposes) and throw in someone with sociopathic tendencies and what do you have? This storyline.
The funny thing is if the tables were turned Sami would be doing the same thing to protect HER family – we all know that. That’s what bugs me about this – b/c of all people she would totally stick up for her brother over choosing EJ. So, even though she hates Kristen, she should still understand how he feels. I mean there is no question the man loves you. He gave up everything for you… Covered ur most recent murder. He looks at you like you are his world. Yes – trust is imporant, but c’mon Sami, y’all have had this issue before – it isn’t new. But alas – there needs to be a story arc.
And for all you Sami/EJ haters they are the realest couple on the show right now (sans Will and Sonny.) They ACTUALLY love each other and are having issues. Vs. Jen/Dan who bump into each other, never go on a date and BAM – they are in love LOL
January 4, 2014 at 2:45 am #42195dvalParticipantI take exception to your first line that he truly does love Sami…you don’t lie to someone you “love” about something so important as what Kristen did to Eric, even it if it is your “family” member. It was a crime and a horribly offensive act. And you know and can help her brother but you won’t because it is your family. Bah…Kristen is a criminal and a sociopath and she needs help. But it’s OK for EJ to cover it up because it is his sister? Baloney.
I guess that Sami being Sami and EJ being EJ it is a true match made in heaven. But as far as I am concerned, if you cannot trust your “soulmate” then there is an issue there and you need to redefine “soulmate”. They are partners in crime and they will back each other up but I don’t think it is “love” in the truly conventional sense of the word. Sure, you might break up with someone using the excuse of your family but that is all it is, an excuse for something you know probably would not have worked anyway. And that is totally different than defending your family member who drugged and raped your “beloved’s” priest brother.
Of course, you could be like Sami and go the opposite direction. If your family hates him then marry him.
I don’t HATE EJ/Sami. they totally belong together. They deserve each other, you might say. But don’t ask me to label them a super couple because they aren’t. If EJ truly loved Sami he would admit what his sister did instead of lying to her about it. Do you know any real, good, solid relationships that are based on lies? Or one person’s acceptance of the other’s deceit? It catches up to you in the end.
As long as they both are happy lying to each other great, but when one of them becomes enraged over the other’s lies it will be the same old merry-go-round for these two. A sexual whirlwind where they fight and then hop into bed to get over it.LOL I don’t know about anyone else but when my husband and I fight the very last thing I feel like doing is hopping in the sack with him until we work things out. And if you talk to people that is more real than Sami and EJ’s belief that sex is the answer to every problem. But I do hope they stay together because they are perfectly suited to each other. Just don’t expect me to root for them as a couple because so far they haven’t done anything together that I really respect or like.
Oh and TFlo…I really hate the Jen/Dan pairing and all the nonsense they have been put through. Don’t presume that I like a couple just because they are goody- two shoes either.
January 4, 2014 at 9:12 am #42197BonbonParticipantDval, I disagree that you don’t lie to someone you truly love. I think in matters that would extremely hurt your partner or something that would destroy or seriously harm your relationship, people lie about all the time. How many people lie to their loved one when they have an affair? You could argue that if they had an affair they didn’t really love them in the first place. While that is certainly true in many cases, I think it isn’t in just as many.
TFlo, I disagree with you about EJ caring more about his family than Sami and that is why he’s not telling the truth about Kristen. I think he’s lying more because of what Sami will do when she finds out what he did and how extremely mad at him she will be (probably the later mostly).
As to couples on the show actually being in any type of normal love, who are they? Possibly Maggie and Victor but, other than that, nobody. What a shame that on a soap which is supposed to be about love more than anything else, we can’t even have a happily married couple. Tom and Alice are probably spinning in their graves.
January 4, 2014 at 1:07 pm #42200TFlo1018ParticipantWill & Sonny are very much in love Bon.
January 4, 2014 at 1:49 pm #42201BonbonParticipantForgot about them. Okay, that’s a big ONE. Pretty pathetic.
January 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm #42202justwonderingParticipantTo me, the most ironic part of this story is that Kristen is NOT family. She was adopted, and it NOT a DiMera. That being said, I believe that EJ feels that he can do whatever he wants without explaining anything to Sami, or anyone. He feels that he is in control at all times.
Does he love Sami? No, I don’t believe he does. He likes the chase, he likes to conquer, and she is the ultimate price. IMHO, much like Stefano’s obsession with his "queen of the night".
Bonbon– you are right about lying, there are times when it is better to lie than tell the truth (especially an affair, if in your heart you know it was wrong, and you want to try again). But in EJ’s case, Sami already knows so it is time to come clean cause he really doesn’t know everything she did.
I think it is more about who he is and that he wants to be in control at all times. In his mind, only he needs to decided what to tell Sami and what not.
I just cannot see them together in the long haul. I alwyas thought Nicole was more suited to him than Sami.
January 4, 2014 at 5:56 pm #42203bluebonnetParticipantThis is a question that goes slightly in a different direction, but isn’t EJ telling Sami all he knows about Kristen and Eric? EJ did find out that Kristen slept with Eric only right before the "wedding," and he told Sami that. What else does he know? Did Kristen tell him about the drugs and he’s keeping that a secret? Sorry, but my memory fails me in all the details surrounding that fateful day.
January 4, 2014 at 7:26 pm #42204maxineParticipantI think EJ does love Sami and I think Sami loves EJ I have finally gotten on board with them being a couple , I do believe that EJ is afraid to tell Sami the truth, because she will fly off and do something crazy, but I also understand how Sami feels she knows he is lying to her and she hit the nail on the head when she said Friday that she did not want to get to the alter and have a secret come to light, that it has happen to many times and she does not want that again. I have loved their scenes together as of late and it does seem that they love each other and have for some time , so it is up to TPTB to get this correct, they need to keep them together or have them move on, at this point I can not see EJ with anyone else nor Sami with someone else, who else would put up with the $hit they pull on each other nor the stuff they have done to one another.
I still feel that if I were Sami I could not forget the things EJ has done to her, but it seems that she has nor could I forget ( if I were EJ )the things she has done to him ( tying to kill him.) shot in the head ???? . there is NO WAY anyone in real life would go back to that, but its a Soap and stranger thing has and will happen. Off my soap box now ..January 4, 2014 at 7:42 pm #42205TFlo1018ParticipantBeing adopted would not make a difference – family is family. But being a Dimera it has always shocked me that Stefano even cared about Kristen/Peter since they were not his. Especially since he practically dis-owned EJ when he thought he was not his. Odd!!!! Then again – throw Tony into that mix. Okay – i have a headache LOL
January 4, 2014 at 8:11 pm #42206BonbonParticipantwith that disowning EJ thing. It didn’t make any sense at all with the messed up family Stefano has/had. Heck, we couldn’t even keep track of which ones were bios and which weren’t. But, supposedly he considered them all familia and wouldn’t let anyone else mess with them..except for him that is, i.e. tossing Tony on that island for 25 years,
January 5, 2014 at 2:13 am #42207dvalParticipantI don’t think u lie about truly important things to someone u love. Because then u spend the rest of ur days worrying they will find out and then the truth will be more damning than if u had just spit it out in the first place. So I believe when u dont tell the truth "for the other persons sake" it is really for ur own benefit which is exactly the facts in ej’s case here. In this case his lie is keeping eric from his position and tarnishing erics image too.this isn’t just between him and Sami. It involves eric too and g e just doesnt care.
January 5, 2014 at 2:15 am #42208dvalParticipantshe told EJ everything because he told her she would burn in hell ir words to that effect.at least that’s what I remember
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