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June 3, 2012 at 5:42 pm #3316BonbonParticipant
and this always seems to be a good place to do it.
I was watching Parking Wars the other night. That is really a funny show; the way some people react to getting a $30 parking ticket can be hillarious, or rant and rave because they get their car booted for non-payment of tickets. They blame everybody but themselves. But, I digress…
Anyway, I was appalled at the language they use, not profanity, just plain ol’ correct grammar. Then, Cake Boss (they are from New Jersey). It’s not the accent, again, it’s the horrible grammar usage. So then I started noticing it on other shows (as well as discussions on the internet), and in general found so many shows, especially reality shows, are using the worst grammar you could imagine. I’m not talking about little gaffs but things like "ain’t", "youse," totally wrong verb usage, stuff like "they is," or "we is," which is VERY common. How are we going to have our kids grow up speaking correctly, or even knowing WHAT is correct if that’s all they see on TV? And it’s rampant in music.
Yeah, I know, someone is going to say, why is that so important? I don’t know, I just think it is. I think it shows a lack of intelligence, education, care for the person you are addressing, or just pride in yourself for wanting to speak correctly. To me, it’s like nails on the chalkboard. Aren’t they (ain’t dey") teaching grammar in school anymore?
Anybody else have this problem or should I just grin and bear it, not that there’s anything I can do about it?
June 3, 2012 at 6:49 pm #3350153tdogsParticipantwith you Bonbon on the state of "our mouths". I fell off the couch about a month ago when I heard "Harry" on Harry’s Law say the word "_rick" on a national big three channel prime time t.v. show! It seems that the more they (Hollyweird) can "shock" and awe us – the "hipper" they are – not!
And, yes, I’m religious also, but I am so very tired of hearing the Lord’s name in vain from hearing it even on cooking shows, to comedy or drama. It’s "Jesus" this or "God" that…yet, one never hears, "Oh, Mohammad dam_it". The country would burn to the ground if Muslims were treated the same way. You hear these things all the time now on television and movies – the more disgusting and vile the more the ratings shoot up. What is wrong with our country that we must degenerate into vile and gutter speak like this?
I am no prude at all, old maybe, but no prude…however, I always felt that if someone had to resort to cussing or using God’s name in vain, they are not adequately expressing themselves as using the intelligence God gave them to their full advantage.
As to your point in the dunning down of the English language on t.v. – do we have to even wonder why children (and adults) cannot articulate in a complete coherent sentence, sans inappropriate language, after constantly being bombarded on t.v., radio, music, et. all, with "ho’s, b_itches, yo-yo, S’up, yo’baby daddy…" etc. – it’s like one needs a Forder’s definition translation book to understand what is being said.
My only articulation problem is my mind cannot keep up with the idea I am attempting to convey at the time – and my spell-checker doesn’t understand my mind – LOL!
June 4, 2012 at 12:46 am #33507PattiParticipantif you download the Google toolbar, the spell-check (A Check) works in your Facebook posts as well as all other posts. It’s the only one I found that does.
June 4, 2012 at 5:37 am #33510DeeLanParticipantI Facebook and most other places that underline a mispelled word in red, just right click on the word and it brings up suggestions for correct spellings.
June 4, 2012 at 5:39 am #33506DeeLanParticipantI agree completely.
On Facebook the grammar or assault of the English language is appalling. The use of text slang, misspelled words (they do have spell check on FB) and the poor sentence structure though I could overlook that one. I have a niece in college studying psychology and she can’t spell Freud or the word college. Another niece posted something I commented on. One of her friends came back with "hey this *itch be growned" All I could say in response was "if she’s "growned" and wants to be treated that way then she needs to start acting like an ADULT"
June 4, 2012 at 12:33 pm #33511caseyParticipantsuch pet peeves with me. The grammar thing – I wonder does anyone teach basic English in school these days? "He had RAN" "He had WENT." And it’s LYING on the bed, not LAYING. When you recline, you LIE.
I watch Judge Judy where you get a real eye-opener of the common lexicon of youth today. I’ve heard several times "I borrowed him money." Huh? That’s not even what you mean to say, as it sounds like you’re the one doing the borrowing.
As for the expletives, it’s gotten totally out of hand. The MFs are horrible to me – think of what you’re saying there. The F word is beyond hope I think, it is so ingrained now. And where God is concerned, no one seems to realize they’re breaking any commandments by taking the name in vain. The crudeness of society is at an all-time high I’m afraid. And I don’t think there’s any turning back.
June 4, 2012 at 1:20 pm #33512luckeyParticipantExtreme Makeover: Home Edition was on, I always waited for the first exclamation of the family when they walked into the new house for the first time. I bet 99.9% of the time, the words that came out of their mouths were…"Oh my god!" I cringed every time and still do whenever that expression is used. The rest of the poor language hurts my ears too. The mispronunciation of the word "ask" is often heard as "aks". There are so many abuses in our language and I, too, am wondering how the workplace will sound in the next generation. Should be very interesting!
June 4, 2012 at 2:54 pm #33518TopazParticipantI agree with everything that has been posted already. I’d like to add the sound-alike words that are constantly used incorrectly: to – too – two — their – there – they’re — weather – whether — etc. We didn’t make the rules for proper English, but we had to learn them and remember them. Why can’t younger people do the same?
June 4, 2012 at 5:39 pm #33524annieoParticipantOr "Me and my husband went to dinner" etc, My husband and I talk about this quite a bit and I commented that I would have to really think about it to say it incorrectly! I never learned to speak like that growing up and I always corrected my kids as well. Now it’s in books, ON THE SOAPS, everywhere you listen! Has it become grammatically correct all of a sudden?
June 5, 2012 at 3:50 am #33538DeeLanParticipantI watch Judge Judy where you get a real eye-opener of the common lexicon of youth today. I’ve heard several times "I borrowed him money." Huh? That’s not even what you mean to say, as it sounds like you’re the one doing the borrowing.
That one REALLY bugs me. When I was little my aunt use to say "I borrowed it to her". UGH, it was like nails on a chalkboard to me.
June 5, 2012 at 10:32 am #33545BonbonParticipantme pause too. I have to stop and think which one is correct for my current usage. We were told to take out the "you" and see which ("I" or "me") sounds right because it’s not always the same.
You say, "You can come with Jimmy and me." You wouldn’t say "You can come with I."
Or, you would say "Jimmy and I am going also" because "Me is going also would be wrong." Have I totally muddled this up? (Ending with a proposition…a no-no in itself but I’ve very guilty of doing that one. It reminds me of some brilliant mind (Einstein, Churchill, ?) who was corrected when he said something like, "That’s something I can’t put up with." So, he changed it to "That’s something up with which I will not put!" :o)
Another one from Bess Truman when a lady at a dinner party commented to her on how often Harry used the word "manure." She said, "Can’t you get Harry to use a word other than manure?" She replied, "My dear, it has taken me years to to get him to USE the word "manure"!
June 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm #33553PattiParticipantThe official explanation is, “I” is a nominative pronoun and is used as a subject of a sentence or clause, while “me” is an objective pronoun and used as an object.
June 9, 2012 at 3:08 am #33671UhSirParticipant*eyes glazed over* See, I think that’s why so many kids fail grammar. I think we’d have a much better hope of kids understanding it if it was taught, in "grammar" school, the way Bonbon explained it, which is the way that one of my college instructors explained it… Yes, I never figured it out until then.
Now, if I could just figure out when to properly use "who" and "whom" I’d be a happy camper!
June 9, 2012 at 3:12 am #33672UhSirParticipant"lose" and "loose"
Drives me NUTS!
June 9, 2012 at 3:28 am #33673UhSirParticipantin Prime Time shows. Worst of all in sit-coms! I’ve truly been shocked at the language spewing out of my television from shows I thought would be "safe" to watch. Add to it that, apparently, sexual references are the only thing that draws a laugh these days.
I used to be embarrassed about the fact that I was 17 years old before I heard the F-word and that when I did I thought it was a brand new cuss word. Now I broadcast it with pride!
If I’m channel surfing and my options are something current vs. something before 1980, I’ll watch the old show/movie even if I’ve seen it oodles of times already.
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