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I know she will backslide but I really want Marlena to leave John. He has been acting like such an ass. His plan was insane. Marlena begged him to believe her and work with her. John has been cold and aloof. He doesn’t deserve her and love for his child is not an appropriate excuse. Brady knew Kristen’s history with his family and he still chose to be with her over his family. Grief over Madison, also no excuse. Marlena raised him, Kristen tried to kill her. End of story.
J&M could have worked together to bring down Kristen. Whoever wrote that crap should be shown the door as well as whomever agreed to putting it on air.
supposedly some writer doesn’t like Marlena and John is no excuse to trash them. Hey guy, you’re not producing SLs for yourself – it’s the viewers!
I was glad to see Marlena not welcoming John back. I’d like to see this couple slowly build back up and John fully realizing how incredibly, unspeakably stupid and hurtful he has been. But will that happen?that, on Friday, John started to say “Sweetheart” when talking to Marlena? And she just walked away. Did he really think she would just fall into his arms and all would be forgiven? The look on his face seemed to suggest exactly that.
I like these characters, I really do, and I hate the way they have been written. We all know they’ll find their way back, but it’s going to be a long haul.
when they bring beloved characters back and trash them so badly. We are now rooting for Marlena to dump John; that’s what it’s come to.
John admitting that he may still have unresolved feelings for Kristen. SAY WHAT? I guess now he’ll have to go away to figure out if he really still loves Doc. Ridiculous nonsense. If I were Marlena I would hit the road and find myself somebody new with no baggage attached and who just wants to show her a little fun after all this depressing stuff she has been through. Maybe somebody younger.
This is so contrary to John’a nature. Marlena has ALWAYS been his true love. They have ruined his character by having him state that he has feelings for Kristen!!
Marlena should give him his walking papers and never look back.
This character is now wholly unrecognizable to me. There is no life or animation to him, just gloom and doom and few words plus that tortured JB tilting of the head and closing his eyes which drives me nuts. History has been dumped big time and I can only assume Ken Corday is on board. These writers must have some quaisi-sadistic nature to turn this once so beloved soap star into this utter mess.
Does Days has intentions of redeeming him? And will anyone care by then?and they have certainly done this with John and Marlena. For him to have to say those words to Marlena today was utter nonsense. I’m convinced Tomsell doesn’t like Drake and had no intentions of writing him in any positive way as far as he and Marlena are concerned. I think he will be leaving soon. Shame on you writers and especially Corday, who knows full well that this is something that never should have happened, under any circumstance whatsoever.
your feeling about Tomsell or do you have some info? If he’s the culprit in John’s descent, then I can’t wait to see him gone.
because these two (Tomlin and Whitesell) are not unfamiliar with DOOL. They’ve been here before and from what I read on many boards as well as media articles, they (at least Tomlin) were directly responsible for the return of many of the vets when they were hired after the firing of Marlene McPhearson and her writing partner, Darryl Ray Thomas; however, I believe certain writers just do not enjoy writing for certain characters, and that is what I think is going on now with John Black. Incidentally, I think the same applies to Bryan Dattilo and Matt Ashford. For some reason these writers want John and Doc to move on, and if that’s what they (writers) want, so long as they have the backing to write the way THEY want to write and not be controlled by the network or Corday, then that’s what we’ll get, and yes, I think Tomlin and perhaps even Chris Whitesell just do not enjoy writing for this character. I also think that’s why Drake’s performance has been so poorly executed. Ever since the writers decided to destroy this very popular super-couple, the fans have been screaming their disgust. It has proven among the fans to be a very poorly written, totally unbelievable storyline where John and Doc are concerned. My belief …. personally …. and I have no way of proving it or disproving it …. someone just does not like writing for Drake, hence the very obvious lack of effort on the part of the actor to be convincing in his role. Presumably, he doesn’t like it anymore than we do, and it shows in Drake’s performance. Too bad, but yes, I believe it is the head-writers who have given up on Doc and John. Drake’s last day of taping was March 18th, so look for him to be gone very soon (not fired … just gone, perhaps until the end of his contract, which runs out shortly). Either way, he will be off-screen for a couple of months. Whether or not he will return is anybody’s guess. If he does return, it will not be before October, since DOOL is 4 months ahead in taping.
I loved Marlena today (Tues.) She was strong and determined and spoke her mind to John. She really let him have it. He acted like he couldn’t believe what she was saying. She was much more like the strong woman she has always been.
John has become a loser. Don’t know how he can overcome this. Is he really done?
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