I’m just starting a new thread on this because the other one had gotten so long and convoluted with other stuff.
As far as Joe retiring, I recall not too long ago him saying in an interview that retirement was not in the cards for him. He enjoyed what he was doing too much to stay home and twiddle his thumbs (my words, not his).
I remember when he left in the past that I really didn’t care much but I would really miss him now. And as much as I dislike Kate, I like the two of them together. I think they play off each other very well and feel that they really do care for each other. Love?, maybe not, but there’s something special there.