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  • #61272
    doolfan
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    The Jude story dragged on and on and now Gabi of all people tells everyone at a press conference that Eric is his father. It seems forced that Gabi told everyone, like they had to end the story quickly. I was surprised by it. I thought it would be Leo or just Nicole overhearing a conversation. Of course, this sets up a big DiMera feud with EJ and Stefan at odds.

    Also the reveal of Li Shin’s murderer on the same day as the baby daddy reveal was a surprise. I had a hunch Connie did it when she mysteriously appeared a few times for no apparent reason. The Gil story was too simple.

    #61273
    mommytutu
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    I had read that Carlivati was ready to wrap up some of these stories that dragged out during the writers’ strike. I was surprised that Gabi was the one who revealed everything, but glad she did. Since Nicole is leaving this month, I’m glad they are wrapping up the story. Maybe she and Eric will go to Paris together with baby Jude.

    I do wonder if they really meant for Connie to be Li’s murderer or if that was an easy way to wrap it up. We haven’t seen Connie in ages and then we see her twice in one episode. My question is how is Bobby/Everett tied to this? Was he even in town when Li was murdered? Since July is sweeps month (we have sweeps in February, July, and November), I’m guessing they want to wrap up a lot of stories so they can move on to new ones for November.

    #61274
    bluebonnet
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    Anyone heard if Greg V (Eric) is leaving the show?

    #61275
    zodiacpisces1971
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    The only thing I don’t get is this: Didn’t Sloan tell EJ where she put Eric’s name. Then some way some how Nicole ended getting the results to have EJ to lock it up in the safe, then having Stefan to end up learning of the results & using them to get Gabi released, who then exposes it to the whole town, then having Nicole to tell Eric that he is a daddy. Don’t you think that this is odd with how it all adds up, it allows the viewers waiting to see if the other shoe is going to fall or not, meaning that results may have been falsified & that Eric can’t get custody, given the had & Sloan illegally adopted this child, i.e. Jude. With Nicole exposing this to Eric, & if & when it comes out that Eric had unknowingly illegally adopted Jude with Sloan, he gets shafted again, i.e. no child at all because the illegal adoption that Trask had put into motion?

    #61276
    mommytutu
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    But regardless of an adoption, legal or not, Eric is Jude’s biological father. In reality, no matter what happens, Eric is the daddy, EJ is not and there is no legal standing to do anything to Eric. On the other hand, when it comes out that EJ knew, maybe he could be legally in trouble.

    #61277
    doolfan
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    Eric was the victim here. He had no idea Jude was kidnapped or that he was the father until everything came out when Sloan confessed and Nicole told him about him being the father.

    #61278
    zodiacpisces1971
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    You find me any judge in soap-land would allow ignorance of the law, to a judge, all he’s going to hear is that Sloan made sure that Trask went through with the illegal adoption of the said child to be illegally adopted by Eric & Sloan. To any judge in soap=land all he would care about is perception & once he learns that Eric was in the middle of it, would it matter that he unknowingly went through with it? EJ would face nothing, the reason is because it was Nicole who gave him the results to lock up. Yes, granted that he did have a paternity test done & that it did show that Eric is the father, but knowing Stefan, he pulled a fast one, he doctored that test that EJ had done, because he would do anything & I mean anything to make EJ pay through the nose, i.e. doctoring the results to vilify EJ, right?

    #61279
    mommytutu
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    But this is not ignorance of the law. The crime was when Sloan and Melinda illegally kept Jude and made up an adoption story. Eric was ignorant of a law—like not knowing you can’t pull through in a parking space in some cities. He had a bona fide lawyer presenting him with a child and adoption papers. He just didn’t know how Jude came to them. When he found out the child was Nicole’s, he immediately took Jude to her. And in reality, Jude is his so even if he had kept Jude, he wasn’t breaking a law. He is the father of Jude, legally.

    #61280
    zodiacpisces1971
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    but it was an illegal adoption of the child & that Eric allowed it, because he bought the fake adoption story & agreed to sign the papers for he & Sloan to legally adopt the child. Once the papers are shown, showing that he willingly signed them, to any soap-judge, once he & or she sees that he willing signed them, shows to this judge that the both of had gotten him to be apart of the conspiracy, see my point now. Like this for instance, Gabi brought up the whole thing & let Nicole to know how long EJ knew, why does that matter, remember, Stefan was willing to take it to his grave, & what did he do, he told his wife all about it, showing to EJ that Stefan was involved with the conspiracy because he ended up telling his wife all about it on his family couch & you tell me how conspiracy doesn’t pertain to Eric & or Stefan.

    #61281
    mommytutu
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    You contradict yourself. Even if it was illegal, Eric was lead to believe it was on the up and up. Trask provided her services. And again, it’s Eric’s child. He never had to adopt his own child. He willingly signed papers because that is the “legal” thing to do when one adopts a child. Where’s the conspiracy on Eric’s part? Eric, Jude, and Nicole are all victims of Sloan and Trask. Even, in the end, EJ is a victim. He was lead to believe he was the biological father, then he was lead to believe he lost his child, then when he found out the baby was alive, he believed it was his child which is why he immediately went to Sloan. When Sloan said the baby was Eric’s, EJ asked for a DNA test and not until that moment, did EJ become in the wrong. That’s when he chose to keep his mouth shut. There’s a big tangled web of guilt here, but Eric is not one of the guilty.

    #61282
    zodiacpisces1971
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    but did Eric know that Jude was his when he adopted the child. I’m talking about the perception angle to play up the conspiracy because, Sloan & Trask arranged for Eric to sign those adoption papers & he was willing & did sign them right? Then with EJ slammed for how long he knew, he’s in the position to pull the immunity deal & have Trask go down for what she had done & she will take Eric down with her, because she & Sloan allowed him to sign the papers, playing up that he was apart of the conspiracy of kidnapping, because the child was kidnapped by Sloan & Trask before the adoption papers were signed by anyone, right?, the only way for Eric to keep this child is if the results that Stefan had seen are bona fide & that Nicole has Justin to write up adoption papers that can override the ones that Sloan & Trask had gotten, right? If this is not in play at all, is Nicole in any position for Eric to keep custody after she leaves this soap? I really hope that when Nicole does leave, she better take Holly with her, the reason is because if she doesn’t, with her not trusting her daughter is highly questionable to allow Holly to stay in Salem, right?

    #61284
    mommytutu
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    Trask can’t take Eric down. Eric is not on the hook for any crimes. I know it’s a soap, but the law is on Eric’s side, so he has nothing to fear.

    #61285
    zodiacpisces1971
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    but what about the perception & that he knew where the child came from, yes, granted, he didn’t know that it came from Nicole, but still, no one put a gun to his head to sign the papers pertaining to adopting a child he had no clue as to where it came from, now did he? then when he was told where it came from, he still went forward to adopting a child with a dubious history of where it came from?

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