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I swear…can’t they make people happy for a change? At least for a little while? I feel like we are watching the sci fi network. Geez, the reason why Days was so big in the 80’s was because the story lines were real. They could happen in real life. Seriously switching people with people who look exactly like them??? My goodness I get enough death and destruction on the local news. The last thing I want to do is voluntarily watch it on tv. And seriously, Chloe doing everything to get back with Dan? Why can’t they make it like real life? A woman picking herself up from the gutter to take care of herself and her child? I know I lived it. I had a 10 month old and was 3 months pregnant when my husband walked out on us. Not for the same reason as this but because he was a piece of (you fill in the blank). I didn’t sit there and loathe in my sorrow. Yes it hurt, but I had two kids to think about. And they meant more to me then I meant to myself. Seriously, the minute she had that child, her life would be about that baby. Really???
I’m over this show…it’s a joke! I’ve been watching since I was a little girl in the 80’s. Maybe if they ever decide to be realistic again I will come back to watching. At this point I couldn’t care less if it went off the air for good!
as weak, sniveling, conniving, who fall apart without a man or go into a screaming match at the drop of a hat. The writers have no concept of what real women can do! The way they write women, to me, is pornographic – (not in the take your clothes off kind of way), but as cheapening what a good, strong, can do it all woman actual is.
As far as the writer’s are concerned – We have NOT come a long way baby! (for those of you too young to remember that line, it’s from the very early 70’s cigarette t.v. commercial (yes, in those days they could advertise on t.v.) touting the woman’s movement of the day.
While it is true that many women make on their own, there are plenty that fall apart just like Chloe. Many also go from man to man like Sami and Nicole. Just ask all the grandparents who are raising their grandchildren while their kids "find themselves". Also ask the kids who are given up cause they don’t get along with mommy’s new "friend" Believe me it goes on every day and some far worse than what is portrayed here. Besides, soaps don’t believe in happily ever after, I think that Alice and Tom were the only couple who never fooled around on DOOL!!!
we are all kidding ourselves if we think that new writers will do any better than any of those who came before them ever did. There have been a few strong women on the show, but they are so so few and far between that it is nearly impossible to recognize them. I think that’s one of the reasons why I can’t completely condemn Carly. She’s not only a fantastic actress, but she’s written in a way that I have come to believe that she can and will overcome anything, and although she may wind up crying on the inside when the Bope fiasco finally comes to an end, I’d be willing to bet that she will move on and become an even stronger, self-reliant woman for it, or at least for whatever remains of her time on this show, unlike others, who will continue to depend upon the kindness, or I should say caring, of others like Maggie Horton to fight their inner demons for them. The writers should recognize that most of their female characters are weak, dependent women who don’t know how to take care of themselves let alone a child or even a husband, and these women are in dire need of an extreme makeover.
duplicated), Alice and Tom strong, in-love, through thick and thin, ’til death do us part couple on the show to give it the strong backbone that all the other characters, (no matter how much cheatin’, lying, vapors, they generate), could revolve around. That would make all the madness
on a daily basis worth it! Instead the writers now have every couple at some point in time loose faith, hope, or love in a relationship. Maybe it’s the way of the world now-a-days, and the writers are just projecting what is what, but we need some glue like grandma and grandpa back in the old days!I think in the real world there are far more dependent women than not. I, myself, am a very strong and independent person. In fact, I’d say my independence was a big contributing factor in my divorce of DH#1. I don’t know why I’m that way, I can’t point at anything that happened to me to be like this but I think you are born that way. A big fault I have is my intolerance for women whom I consider "weak" and have to have a man in their lives for them to be happy and take of most of their needs.
My DH#2 died 20 years ago this month and I have lived my life alone (except for pups) since then. (BTW, he recognized my strong will and accepted and knew how to live with it.) I take care of my yard, my car, and my house all by myself. If something needs to be fixed, I fix it. If something has to be done, I do it. I do have a young man that handles things I can’t physically do but other than that, it all falls on me.
I have found that through my life I have gravitated toward (good) women friends who are like me and have discovered that there are not a lot of them. Most of my friends/acquaintences are married and, without going into excruciating detail, see on a daily basis how much they rely on their husbands for so much in their lives.
I’m not saying that, by any means, this is a good (or bad) thing, just that we are very much the minority. So, it seems that soap writers write the women as clingy, weak people because that is what they know and what is the norm for them. I really don’t think a writer, a woman writer especially, would even know how to pen a part for a strong woman unless they are one themselves, or a man that is married to one.
That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it!
and I must say, I agree with every word you said. I had two terrific husbands; my first died of leukemia; the second from lung cancer. I managed to hold it together through both tragedies, and I still miss them to this day. But, I have some terrific memories, and I figured out a long time ago that life goes on. Now I find myself totally dependent upon me, myself and I, and I love every minute of it. I am reasonably healthy, and I plan new and challenging tasks for myself all of the time, and if I don’t know how to do something, I learn how to do it. I keep myself occupied with my children and grandchildren, but they do not dominate my life. I’m not afraid to get in my car and go places that I’ve never been before, even if I have to go on MapQuest to find it. I’m not a loner; I enjoy the company of friends; however, most of them are still married and at times I feel like a fifth wheel, although they have never made me feel that way. I do try to do something special with one or two of my grandkids each week (besides taking them or picking them up from school), even if it’s just to go to a movie or take them shopping, which I enjoy as much as they do. Like you, I am sadly intolerable of women who totally depend on a man. Even when my husbands were here, if I wanted to do something, I just went ahead and did it and, maybe with the exception of fixing my own car, managed to do it well. I remember the first time I tackled wallpapering, just standing back and admiring my work and all my husband could do was shake his head in disbelief; not because he was disappointed, but because he was proud of me. So, don’t be surprised when I criticize people like Melanie, or Chloe, or Stephanie, or any weak woman on a soap, because I find it difficult to believe that any woman in today’s world has to subject herself to a life of misery and disdain when the simple answer is the most important person in your life is you, take care of her and she will take care of you.
I too am single and too cannot abide these foolish gals who cannot do a thing on their own and need to have a man in their life.
I have learned to fix things around the house, I have built my own barns (ok, not exactly a Lloyd Wright masterpiece but they hold up through wind and storm), I travel distances by myself, rarely getting lost. I cannot believe my girlfriends who can’t walk out the door without their man.
It would sure to be nice to have help but I’ve always been independent (my mom tells me I was that way from birth!) and enjoy my time alone. I’ve found most people cannot handle solitude or quiet.I agree with all of you. I was married at 24 and divorced at 25. I was single until I remarried at 45. When my dad retired I moved back in with my parents because I felt my money could do better helping them than paying someone I didn’t know for rent. After my dad died I had a deck added to the house and used what would normally be my vacation money and stayed home. We had no shed or garage so I decided to build an enclosure under the deck. I called around to lumbar yards who could pre-cut the plywood for me and the man there told me how to reinforce the door. I was out in the yard cutting 2 X 4’s with a circular saw that I’d never used before and I built my enclosure for the lawn mower and other garden tools. One year my mom wanted a ceiling fan in the dining room so while she was at Bingo I went shopping and the people at Home Depot were shocked that I was going to put it up myself. My feeling, if I can read a recipe to bake a cake why can’t I read directions to put up a ceiling fan. I learned enough from helping my dad to know to turn the electricity off and how to use the caps for the wires or electrical tape. I even learned how to use a screwdriver.
When I got married in 2003 I married a wonderful man who I do rely on but that’s only because I got tired of being responsible for so long it’s nice to have someone to lean on. He knows and I know that I can do everything myself if I want but it makes him feel so good to be the MAN in the houehold and take care of the yard work or any home repairs but I’m usually right there with my head in the project wanting to help. Of course he also helps with the housework and we have a deal. I cook and he does the dishes. I clean the carpeted areas (living room, hallway, office and bedrooms) he cleans the tiled areas (kitchen and 2 bathrooms). It’s been that way since the day we got married. In the summer when there is yard work I will clean the kitchen once in a while just to feel like I’m helping him out a bit. The one thing he does that I REFUSE to do is catch any critters that get inside such as mice and geckos BUT he’ll call me to kill spiders.
I have to tell you a story about my self-reliance. We (DH#2 and I) were putting up Christmas lights outside. He plugged one into the porch light fixture and it went, pffzzzzzt and sparks flew out. He got down off the ladder, went into the garage and came out with a couple of tools and some electricians’ tape. This really surprised me because he was not "mechanical" at all. My surprise was short-lived as he walked over to me, handed me the stuff and said, "Please fix that."
I had the same expierence as you with wallpaper. My very first job ever was the kitchen in the first house I bought on my own, which was very large with lots of doors, windows, and cabinets. And first I had to strip what was on there…I’ll never do THAT again! It took me three days to finish it but when it was done I was very proud of myself.
I remember my first and only wallpaper job. It was a small bathrooom in an addition to the house. I had a friend who’s father hung wallpaper for a living tell me what type of paper to buy and how to do it. I of course purchased an extra rolll just to be safe and thank God I did. It took me 1 entire roll to get the first corner right. After that it was a breeze and I was able to match up the pattern with no problem.
Again, all of you love your independence so it is hard for you to relate. however, I feel that there are many women more like Chloe, Sami, Stephanie, and even Melanie who like having someone to lean on. Maggie is one who stands out as that independent woman. Caroline has also learned to be on her own. There have been times in Kate’s life when she has been on her own. Now Jennifer is doing her own thing. So there are examples of independence but Soaps are all about relationships and interaction between men and women so they tend to make the man the hero—Rafe, Nathan, and of course Bo.
maybe DOOL is not so off track!!
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