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June 13, 2010 at 3:19 pm #773imported_JennMParticipant
Firstly, I’ve enjoyed the show this past week, for the most part, because they are gearing up for Alice’s passing etc. It’s great to see Missy and Marie back in Salem, and they can always just drop right into character. Love that.
Has to be weird for Jennifer to be happy to see both Carly, her best friend in school, and Hope, her closest cousin, given that Bo is right in the middle of all of them. That was played really well I think.
The whole thing about Hope being surprised/shocked about divorce papers is kind of lame though. Firstly, Hope left Bo. Secondly, she was the one who asked for the divorce (and as such, she should have been the one to file for it, IMO – that’s how it works in my world).
Bo and no way of knowing that Alice was going to take a turn for the worse, so it’s not like he intended to time it the way he did, and since he’s living in the house, he should be able to leave papers where he wishes without having to fret about who might see them.
Bo already has Carly living with him, so why would it be a huge surprise that he wants to go ahead with the divorce?
Now Hope is all sad again like she’s the victim again. **Yawn**.
At least she did acknowledge to him that she was the one who asked for the divorce etc., but I dont’ think she came across as sincere.
Rather, for the longest time, she didn’t want Bo, but didn’t want anybody else (ie Carly) to have him either. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Historically, at least in the real world, "rebound" relationships fail miserably anyway (and IMO, Carly was the rebound woman back in the day, I believe she was the first woman after Hope "died")… and now she’s right in there again right on Hope’s heels.
Bo is pretty weak, IMO if he can’t get along without a woman… Hope was barely out the door and Carly was moved in. Now he’s all caring and sympathetic toward Hope in her hour of need – and Carly is taking a back seat. Not exactly the actions of a man who knows what he wants – or even whom he wants. The minute Hope came to him, he seemingly dropped Carly like a hot potato, and she felt like she needed to leave the house that she lives in (I don’t consider Bo and Hope’s house, Carly’s "home").
I do fell like the Alice crisis is probably going to be used to drive Bo and Hope back toward one another… and it wouldn’t surprise me if Carly then sets her sights on Daniel… (more yawn)… that’s just my speculation.
The thing that gets old with Bo and Hope is that they seem to be cyclical… when the going gets tough, they split up. When something pushes them back together, the have their little, "Ah-ha!" moment, realize they belong together and then everything is fine and dandy until somebody screws up the trust again, and the whole process repeats itself.
I’d much rather see them working together against some other outside evil than always hurting each other, then reconciling, then forgetting all about that and hurting each other again.
For years now, Hope has had this, "holier than thou" attitude and Bo can do nothing right, so she condemns him. She’s become very punative. She seems to punish him every time he turns around – the poor guy can’t catch a break.
Of course him running straight to Carly isn’t so good either… in a way one can’t blame him but he needs to grow some backbone and decide what he wants.
Oh and when Jen suggested to Hope that she doesn’t want the divorce anymore… well she might not have a choice. If Bo files, she can contest it and make it a bit more messy, and make some attorneys richer, but in the end, divorces usually go through even if one party "does not want."
Jenn
June 13, 2010 at 4:31 pm #13593BonbonParticipanton what state you’re in. If you’re in a community property state, there is no contesting a divorce. If one person wants it, they get it, despite how the other party feels. All they have to claim for cause is "irreconcilable differences." But, "if" they are in Illinois (which we always seem to assume because of their close proximity to Chicago), it is NOT a community property state so…they might just as well go to the Bishop and get an anullment. They don’t seem to be very hard to get in Salem. <extreme sarcasm>
June 13, 2010 at 4:50 pm #13594PattiParticipantI have always thought that Bo and Hope, the one true super-couple left on this show, have created their own problems by not trusting their love for each other, in good times and bad, and realize that the longevity of their history together should prove to both of them that they can come through any crisis, including ones they create themselves, if they allow themselves to trust in their genuine love for each other. To this point, they are BOTH weak and their rash decisions prove it to a fault. I had to laugh at the line the writers gave Hope the other day when she told Doc Baker that Bo left her and now has another woman living in her house. How strange that she seems to have forgotten who walked out on whom. And, I will never understand how either of them now decide that it’s best to simply part ways than to try…..oh, I don’t know, …. marriage counseling, maybe. So, we’ve finally reached the point where they may or may not divorce, although I don’t see that happening, but if neither one is willing to admit to the other how they truly feel and insist on causing continuous pain and heartache to one another, then maybe they should finally end it once and for all. I hope not, but the rinse and repeat cycle is predictable and frustrating. I love this couple and wish the writers would take this opportunity to realize, enough of this. It’s time for Bo and Hope to either begin believing in the strength of their love for one another, other or simply cut bait and swim on.
June 13, 2010 at 6:10 pm #13598imported_JennMParticipantAnd on Friday’s show, we saw that he really does seem to be more conflicted than he’s demonstrating.
If he’s really truly moved on with Carly, (which I don’t think he has), then he wouldn’t have been so super-attentive to Hope. I can see him wanting to see Alice etc., but his being there for Hope and all that… well if he’s truly in a committed relationship with Carly, it’s totally inappropriate for him to be as intimate (emotionally) with Hope.
It’s not fair to any of them. Carly is taking a back seat (and she thusfar seems OK with that), Hope is playing "dog in the manger" – she didn’t want Bo when it suited her, and now that she "needs" him he’s supposed to forget about Carly and himself and do right by her…
And like I said, Bo needs to grow some stones and pick one.
Even if Hope isn’t ready/doesn’t want him or whatever, if he’s still in love with her, or isn’t over her, he has no business being with anyone else.
I’ll say this though – it’s a situation that many real-life people get into (been there, done that)… and it never ends well for anybody.
Jenn
June 13, 2010 at 8:48 pm #1360053tdogsParticipantabout everything…pure wisdom stated there by you ladies. We all know the score – how many times have we watched Bo and Hope be torn apart by circumstances, (although, this time it’s their own stupidity), only to be brought back together again…well, that makes the best and classic soap opera stories.
Like many of us have said many times, we don’t mind adversity and evil obstructing and trying to take apart the last remaining current super couple on Day’s as a story line – However, to have these two characters be so idiotically stupidly stupid (I meant to be redundent to rub it in to the writers) – that they don’t espouse their own true feelings for one another for the last 25+ something years and just blow all of what they have been through to the wind is just out and out outrageous to me…(I’m finding it difficult to express myself, I am just so p.o.’d at this story line)..I for one am tired of it. Writers – stop it! Now.
June 13, 2010 at 10:02 pm #13601SWParticipantsight even, they shouldn’t have been seen. If Jennifer hadn’t opened the draw by the phone looking for paper, she wouldn’t have seen the papers at that point either. When snooping, you never know what you’ll find!
June 13, 2010 at 10:19 pm #13605DeeLanParticipantI think the papers were on top of the desk. Jennifer put paper on the desk to write and when she picked it up the papers were there in plain site. Even Bo realized there were left out where Hope could see them.
June 13, 2010 at 10:26 pm #13606DeeLanParticipantIf I’m remembering correctly, every time Bo and Hope separate it’s Hope that does the leaving or kicks Bo out. She’s the one that calls the shots and Bo just goes along with it. When Hope’s ready to take him back he’s right there forgiving her for everything.
After Zach died Hope couldn’t forgive Bo for not turning against his daughter so she kicked him out. She runs off with Patrick and throws her wedding ring into the ocean but when she’s in trouble Bo’s there and he forgives her for everything. Even to the point of accepting Ciera when there was a chance she was Patrick’s.
Bo’s no saint and he shares a lot of the blame in this but Hope to me is manipulative, overbearing and selfish. Bo’s been her lapdog who comes when she calls.
June 14, 2010 at 12:14 pm #13621imported_JennMParticipantJen went into the desk to find a pen or pencil, and probably a piece of note paper. The divorce papers were on top of the desk, in plain sight.
Jenn
June 14, 2010 at 12:17 pm #13622imported_JennMParticipantWhen Hope "came back from the dead" and the whole Princess Gina fiasco was winding down, when it was discovered that PG was really Hope, Bo was involved with Billie, and when it came down to a choice, he chose Billie, which totally enraged the fans.
I think shortly after that was the whole Georgia stillbirth fiasco that was totally re-written later on when it was revealed that Chelsea was really, "Georgia" who didn’t die in Billie’s arms in the swamp… GAWD that was some lame storytelling…
That was the one time I can think of when Bo didn’t drop anyone/everyone else like a hot potato, for Hope.
Jenn
June 14, 2010 at 2:41 pm #13633DeeLanParticipantIf I’m remembering correctly Bo and Billie were both working for the ISA at the time Georgia was conceived. They were undercover in Europe on the trail of a drug king and pretending to be in love. They were forced to get married and I think Hope was there and forced to be a witness. Hope then left and Billie was force fed IV drugs again and became addicted. Bo was there with her in a hotel room helping her through the withdrawl.
Bo and Hope were together when Georgia was born. Billie was in the swamps by herself. When she came back she didn’t say anything about the miscarriage/stillbirth but later said she’d lost the baby and it was Hope’s fault due to all the stress she put on her.
June 14, 2010 at 3:45 pm #13634imported_JennMParticipantI do distinctly remember how many Hope fans were uber-ticked off that Bo chose Billie over Hope. Not sure where that fits into the timeline, but I seem to remember at some point, he did pick Billie over Hope.
Of course they did get back together again (Bo and Hope) but from then on, Hope has never had trust for Bo. I seriously doubt it’s deliberately been written that way – there doesn’t seem to be that kind of depth to the characters anymore, but since that time it’s just been one stupid crisis after another that drives them apart, and then it’s always been Hope that bails first.
Jenn
June 14, 2010 at 3:53 pm #13637DeeLanParticipantI remember when Hope came back at one time. Bo did choose Hope and on their wedding day Kate arranged for Bo and Billie to at the Horton Cabin together and Hope to find them. Hope thought Bo chose Billie and called off the wedding.
June 14, 2010 at 4:30 pm #13638imported_JennMParticipantThen I wonder what I’m remembering? Leave it to Kate to meddle…
I distinctly remember Hope fans in particular, being livid at Bo for choosing Billie – but my brain is fuzzy and I don’t remember exactly which circumstance. If it was Kate setup, the viewers would have been aware of that, and been angry at Kate, not Bo.
Jenn
June 14, 2010 at 8:44 pm #13639DeeLanParticipantI think when they were in Europe and undercover for the ISA Bo chose to go along with Billie’s story that they were in love and Hope was forced to stand by and watch the lie and Bo and Billie ended up getting married. I don’t remember if it was a fake priest or judge that married them or if it was real. That might have gotten fans upset that Bo went along with Billie at the time.
It seems that Bo’s always running to the defense of a woman and doesn’t always realize when he’s being set up.
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