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Where are you again? Are they keeping the audience guessing? When Chad encountered Clyde & Craig, he did smell the scent of vanilla on Craig, but Craig did bring up a very good point. He had brought up in the pub that the attack on Sonny & Abs’ killing is on him. He did bring up that they all tried to warn him, so do you think that he would attack people who were trying to warn him & yet bring up not hearing their warnings?
It’s very unlikely that not hearing their warnings would have him attack the messengers who were putting out warnings to him, don’t you think?
Thanks for the response: I hope that you have read in the daily synopsis or the upcoming daily synopsis you end up learning that Sonny Kiriakis remembered the smell of vanilla. Since you have brought up both characters, meaning, Clyde & or Li Shin, we could lose tomorrow & no one would miss them, they are not major players, wouldn’t that apply to Jackie Cox. With Jackie Cox being a drag persona, can you see deportation of a drag persona holding water? Think about it with the smell of vanilla, in drag queen makeup, I can see vanilla being the main ingredient, so I can see as to how Jackie could easily have stabbed Sonny in the back, given that he & Chad flew Jackie to the double weddings because she did bring up half of Craig’s money was supposed to be hers.
I can’t see how Jackie killed Abigail, because Abigail only knew about Lucas’ kidnapping of Sami, so I can’t see Jackie killing her, given that she didn’t help with flying who where, now did she?
If the killings are not related at all. Then when have Chad to tip Leo off by allowing Leo to hear that he was talking to his wife playing up to Leo that they both had a hand in Sonny’s plan to have Chad seduce Leo. Then, what Leo did to Sonny by sending the content to Will of Leo’s wild night with Titan’s new CEO? Remember, we did see 5 seconds after Sonny had gotten the CEO title, Leo was informed of it. Then this: if the killings are not related at all, then why Leo to frame?
Remember, Gwen: She told Leo how to use the weapon. He had the weapon. The weapon that Leo was told how to use was the weapon that was used on Abby, & on Sonny. Rafe had shown the weapon & the hit list to Sloan, she had no knowledge of the list, now did she?
If Leo is being framed & he never killed anyone, then why the nightmare he had, that could have come from a mental block Leo might have & the nightmare came into play because of his guilty conscience, don’t you think?
I can see Leo being framed, given that he had ample opportunity of killing Sonny in his hospital bed & didn’t. To me, I have a feeling that Leo blocked out everything he had done, meaning Abs’ murder & the attempted murder of Sonny. Remember, they did have Leo having a nightmare as to where Chad murders Leo by stabbing him. Isn’t it very odd that they play up the nightmare & yet give the illusion of Leo being framed if there’s a chance that nightmare took place, due to his guilty conscience of acting on the killing & the attempted murder?
Time Period of the show: 2023. The year leap.
I can see that Leo could have been framed given that his hit list showed up at Titan’s offices as well as the knife that was lunged into Sonny.
But remember, the only people that knew about the knife being left behind at the murder scene was Leo & Sloan & she’s keeping quiet, I can’t see her slipping in to the De Mira house to the weapon on Abigail two months before she showed up, now can she?
I can’t see that Sloan is Chad’s full-blooded sister, or half-blooded sister, given that Madeline Woods fell to her death on a staircase at the docks, much less being the daughter of Leisure’s D.A. Woods’ given his vasectomy. Remember, Madeline fell to her death 13 years ago, given the year leap making the year 2023, & D.A. Woods left town 12 years ago.
Remember, Sloan doesn’t know anything about the knife, given that Leo had led her & Rafe to the mask, & not the weapon, now did he?
If there are rumors of Victor’s death, then why isn’t there anything about the actor leaving?
The question that I have is why Abe made the decision to run, I know that Price Town is no more & that they have been there done that, but what I’m getting at is that with how Paulina blindsided everyone with it, including Abe, putting it into motion & was about to do it, the last thing that Abe would want is to run for Governor & yet also be blindsided when it comes to wife’s actions that he doesn’t see coming, wouldn’t that hurt him in the running for Governor?
To me, what I see with this, is that Leo had the weapon when he was in the closet. With how he was told as to how to use it, Gwen in a Sarah mask showed up, Leo refused to use it to kill anyone, Gwen as Sarah used it & killed Abigail with it, then once Abby on the bed stabbed to death, Gwen left her disguise behind with the weapon, she showered, to get the blood off of her, Leo knowing the blood is on the disguise, he put it on & put on the mask & it was his Sarah that Lucas had seen leaving & dropping the weapon & with the color of the clothing he wore, meaning, a black ensemble, no one saw the blood on it.
So the question that I have is this: I can’t see how they can prove that Leo’s version took place, much less, Gwen’s version. Because it’s considered hearsay, either version may end up being total opposites of each other, so no one will know as to who did it, now would they?
In Leo’s hiding place. Thomas brought him breakfast. ChadAda had seen the dishes. The only silverware found was the fork.
When Leo was hiding in Abs’ bathroom & or closet, he had the weapon. So they can’t even put the weapon in the murderer’s hand.
When Gwen tells her story & Leo tells his lawyer his version, either one of them can’t prove it. Remember, one version would be protected & no one will ever know of it, given that it was said to a lawyer.
Then they go down with the Rashomon trope. They did that once before when Will went down for killing Adrienne, so did Maggie & then we learn that Orphy-boy & his demonic spawn ended up doing it.
What I’m getting at is that with how Leo having the murder weapon & hiding in Abs’ bedroom whatever, at the time of the murder, explain how the murderer used the weapon.
It was proven that it was the murder weapon, hence, why Leo freaked when he heard as to what was proven to be the weapon & that he had it when he was hiding. I can’t see that Leo is covering for Gwen, given that he had the weapon while hiding when the murder took place.
I think that this theory works: They had put it out there that it would be intricate. This is the theory. Leo had the mask, he stabbed Abs to death with what he has, then he had Ava come to the house to get the mask, she sends it to Gwen, so when showed up the D. Estate, she saw as to what Leo had done to Abs, she put the mask on, grabbed the weapon & a drunken Lucas saw who he thought it was when she was trying to get rid of the weapon.
Any Takers?
How exactly would he be looking for Gabi with how it was brought up of the chip that transformed Hope into Princess Gina would be planted into Stefan? Was it not brought up as to what that chip did to Hope, of Chloe & Gabi going over how they were both in love Stefan & what Chin had brought up to Rolf?
Would they be alluding to any of this if they are not going there?
I can’t see this happening, given that with how Abs’ funeral wasn’t even shown, I bet you dollars to doughnuts that Victor’s services wouldn’t be shown either & can you imagine the backlash this show would get if it isn’t shown?
Especially, given that the only members if the Kiriakis family that would be there would be Alex, Brady, Maggie & Sonny & no Justin at all, given Kurth’s contract with GH?
I may not know what Kristen has against Gabi. Wouldn’t you think that there has to be a story as to why Kristen wants Gabi to stay on at De Mira if she has no plans to take it out on Gabi, especially when EJ has Chad, Johnny & Kate’s shares, so with him having those shares, you tell me as to why & how Stefan can stop EJ, given as to what EJ has on Ava regarding that he had heard that it was Ava who helped Gwen to escape prison the night that Abs was killed?
Remember, at the time that Holly’s death was faked, Chloe was being romanced by Stefan, & that Chin & Kristen had brought that up, meaning, that they may talk him into romancing Chloe again so Gabi loses Stefan again.
So the question is this, with Leo having the weapon while he was hiding, how could anyone have used the weapon on Abigail, given that Leo had it on him at the time of the killing? I can’t see Leo giving the weapon to anyone & then give him immunity once the mask is found, given that when Gwen shows up, she could turn on Leo may naming him being the one that he gave her the weapon, so wouldn’t that overturn the immunity deal & he goes to prison with Gwen?
Then why the story for Shin & Kristen to bring up that Stefan had romanced Chloe at the time of Holly’s faked death that Kristen, Ted & Xander had a hand in? Then this: With how Kristen wants Gabi thrown out of De Mira, that was why she voted to keep Gabi on board at De Mira, because she wants to be the one to bury Gabi, herself, What better way to do that is by having the love of Gabi’s life to go after Chloe.
The main problem that I have is that there was no story at all as to how Shin knew that Stefan is alive. In order to have Shin to have Rolf’s lab built to transfer Jake’s heart into Stefan, now was there?
EJ knew that it was Will. EJ blackmailed Will to steal the election from Abe, so Lucas isn’t the only one who knew.
What I’m getting at is that, yes, granted, Thomas may have given Leo the knife. He didn’t know that it was used to kill his mommy, now did he? What I’m getting at is that without delivering who breakfast, there wouldn’t have been a need for Gwen to tell Leo how to use it. The same way with Kate. Kate & Chad both knew as to what Lucas had done to EJ. They planted evidence on Belle, & that’s what sent EJ to prison for a crime he didn’t do. That’s why Kate brought up to Roman that is confessing that she is an accessory after the fact.
So what I’m getting at is that Leo can still go down for possessing the murder weapon, it doesn’t matter that he didn’t use it, they can still get him on possessing the murder weapon. Remember, he had the knife when Gwen told him how to use it. If Gwen is the murderer & not Leo she would have the knife, not Leo, don’t you think?
With how EJ went to prison for a crime he didn’t do would happen to Leo because of the jewels that he had given a piece of to Clyde to show that Leo had stolen them, then he was at the murder scene, & that he had the weapon concealed & was told how to use & you’re telling me that Gwen had the knife & not him, the only time she had the weapon was when she tried to get rid of the weapon. We still don’t know if that was Gwen or Leo, now do we?
